21:45 -!- raghavan [~chatzilla@i60-47-104-120.s11.a027.ap.plala.or.jp] has joined #zoo-project 22:03 < raghavan> Hi Jeff and Gerald 22:04 -!- tomkralidis [~tomkralid@CPE0013ce450e14-CM001692413c80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #zoo-project 22:05 -!- tomkralidis [~tomkralid@CPE0013ce450e14-CM001692413c80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Changing host] 22:05 -!- tomkralidis [~tomkralid@osgeo/member/tomkralidis] has joined #zoo-project 22:07 < djay> hello raghavan 22:07 < raghavan> I was 24 hours early for the meeting. 22:07 < djay> yes, ready to start 22:08 < raghavan> too early to start, see you all tomorrow. same time. 22:18 -!- tclarke is now known as tclarke|AFK 22:19 -!- raghavan [~chatzilla@i60-47-104-120.s11.a027.ap.plala.or.jp] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]] 22:44 -!- kalxas [~kalxas@adsl-246.91.140.28.tellas.gr] has joined #zoo-project 23:55 -!- tracbot [~tracbot@160.193.16.171] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:55 -!- tracbot [~tracbot@160.193.16.171] has joined #zoo-project --- Day changed mer. févr. 22 2012 00:04 -!- tomkralidis [~tomkralid@osgeo/member/tomkralidis] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]] 00:10 -!- kalxas [~kalxas@adsl-246.91.140.28.tellas.gr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:42 -!- tomkralidis [~tomkralid@CPE0013ce450e14-CM001692413c80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has joined #zoo-project 02:42 -!- tomkralidis [~tomkralid@CPE0013ce450e14-CM001692413c80.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com] has quit [Changing host] 02:42 -!- tomkralidis [~tomkralid@osgeo/member/tomkralidis] has joined #zoo-project 02:54 -!- jmckenna [~chatzilla@blk-137-76-228.eastlink.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 03:38 -!- tomkralidis [~tomkralid@osgeo/member/tomkralidis] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:29 -!- reluc [~rldhont@193.49.41.10] has joined #zoo-project 13:53 -!- tomkralidis [c7673ebe@osgeo/member/tomkralidis] has joined #zoo-project 13:59 -!- jmckenna [~chatzilla@blk-137-76-228.eastlink.ca] has joined #zoo-project 14:22 -!- tclarke|AFK is now known as tclarke 15:43 -!- kalxas [~kalxas@adsl-215.79.107.24.tellas.gr] has joined #zoo-project 15:48 -!- lucadelu [~kvirc@77.72.197.131] has joined #zoo-project 17:35 -!- reluc [~rldhont@193.49.41.10] has quit [Quit: Ex-Chat] 18:33 -!- lucadelu [~kvirc@77.72.197.131] has quit [Quit: KVIrc 4.1.1 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/] 21:37 -!- maxi| [~maxi@host176-231-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #zoo-project 21:38 < maxi|> Psc in 25 21:38 < maxi|> Minutes? 21:45 -!- tomkralidis [c7673ebe@osgeo/member/tomkralidis] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 21:50 < djay> maxi|: yes 21:53 < maxi|> Inter - om 0-0 21:53 < maxi|> :-) 21:55 < djay> ho, we are looking at the same thing 21:55 < djay> my children got the inter milan shirt when they won the european league, but not for tonigh ... between any team and OM, I decide OM :) 21:56 < jmckenna> maxi|: you mean derby??? 21:56 < maxi|> No change 21:57 < maxi|> Champions league 21:57 < jmckenna> ah 21:57 < jmckenna> i'm so canadian :) 22:02 -!- raghavan [~chatzilla@i60-47-104-120.s11.a027.ap.plala.or.jp] has joined #zoo-project 22:03 < djay> good morning venka and welcome 22:04 < raghavan> good morning 22:04 < jmckenna> i just poured a spicy caesar (drink, my southern neighbors call them 'bloody mary's') 22:05 < raghavan> Cheers, Jeff. 22:05 < jmckenna> cheers venka! 22:05 < djay> :) 22:05 < maxi|> Hello 22:05 < jmckenna> :) rrrready 22:05 < raghavan> We need one more member to start. Hi Maxi. 22:06 -!- markusN [~chatzilla@151.62.28.124] has joined #zoo-project 22:07 < raghavan> OK, shall we start 22:07 < raghavan> Meeting page http://www.zoo-project.org/trac/wiki/PSC/meetings/PSCMeet16 22:07 < raghavan> Item 1: ZOO-Project OSGeo incubation Process status 22:08 < markusN> Hi all, sorry for late 22:08 < raghavan> Gerald and Nick are supposed to floow-up on that one. Gerald can you brief. 22:08 < djay> if we take the last meeting updates about status, we should almost ... at the same position 22:09 < raghavan> So so progress vis-avis incubation. Any plans ahead for the next incubator committee meeting? 22:10 < djay> so status didn't change 22:10 < djay> no, I didn't any 22:10 < djay> did anyone heard anything about GEOS incubation process ? 22:11 < maxi|> No 22:11 < raghavan> We have a software and a mentor (FrankW), but will have to wait till FrankW is ready and completes GEOS graduation. So we will have to wait for a while more, I guess. 22:11 < djay> ZOO-Project incubation process is depending on its incubation. 22:11 < djay> I guess the same :] 22:11 < markusN> nice circular dependency? 22:12 < raghavan> Nicolas and Gerald need to follow up on the incubation with FrankW. 22:12 < raghavan> Yes, vicious circle, Markus. 22:12 < raghavan> Propose to ask Nick to report about status and follow-up on the mailing list. 22:13 < djay> +1 22:13 < raghavan> shall we move to item 2: ZOO-Project 2011 Sponsorship budget report 22:13 < djay> yes, I think we can move on 22:14 < raghavan> Gerald already reported status about 2011 budget on the mailing list. 22:14 < raghavan> +1 for approval of 2011 budget. 22:15 < maxi|> +1 22:16 < jmckenna> link to email? 22:16 < jmckenna> maybe budget should be posted on a wiki? 22:17 < raghavan> http://gisws.media.osaka-cu.ac.jp/pipermail/zoo-psc/2012-January/000472.html 22:17 < markusN> The OSGeo budget is also online 22:17 < markusN> a link should be ok in the agenda 22:17 < raghavan> will be posted after approval. 22:17 < markusN> ok 22:17 < raghavan> Sorry for not putting the link in the agenda. 22:17 < markusN> np 22:18 < jmckenna> raghavan: thanks for link 22:18 < jmckenna> +1 22:18 < markusN> +1 22:18 -!- raghavan is now known as venka 22:19 < venka> Gerald: your vote? 22:19 < djay> +1 22:19 < venka> Budget approved. 22:20 < venka> item3: ZOO-Project 2012 call for sponsors 22:20 < venka> Gerald: can you update 22:20 < djay> about the call for sponsors there wasn't any by now 22:20 < venka> I mean what is the plan. 22:21 < djay> Indeed, we learnd last year that it was not good to ask for money at the begining of the year. Indeed many fees for association involvement or ogc membership renewal occur at this time 22:21 < markusN> interesting point 22:21 < venka> I thought GeoLabs and Neogeo will continue to be sponsors. So when are yyou going to send call to sponsors, gerald. 22:23 < venka> OK, gerald can update about timing and plan for call for sponsors for 2012. Perhaps we should send out the call in March 2012 to some old and potential sponsors. 22:23 < djay> indeed I think that GeoLabs will continue to be sponsor 22:24 < djay> nevertheless I'm wondering about actual sponsor which are planning to stop 22:24 < djay> are we really forced to remove them 22:24 < markusN> Partially related: I hope that FEM can finance some ZOO extension this year again. Awaiting project approval 22:25 < djay> I ask cause I also think that some sponsors contribute in other way than only putting money in the pot and which can be sometime more useful to get help that only money 22:25 < jmckenna> maybe we should put together a wishlist of features and approach sponsors 22:25 < venka> FEM is "knowledge partner" +1 if they wish to be listed as sponsor too (since they are funding) 22:26 < markusN> do we have the definition of both online somewhere? 22:26 < djay> yes we get 22:26 * djay searching 22:26 < venka> +1 for wishlist. BTW OCU is knowledge partner (and also provides IT infrdastructure for ZOO-Project). 22:26 < markusN> so in-kind sponsoring 22:27 < venka> Yep. 22:27 < venka> But OCU can be listed as Knowledge partner. 22:28 < djay> for Sponsor we get : http://www.zoo-project.org/trac/wiki/Sponsorship and knowledge partner : http://www.zoo-project.org/trac/wiki/ZooWebSite/BecomeKnowledgePartner 22:28 < venka> +1 for making a short call for sponsor by March 2012. +1 for preparing wishlist before that and +1 for removing old sponsor names after 1 April 2012. 22:29 < maxi|> +0, +1, +1 22:29 < djay> +1 for sending call for sponsor on march 19 22:30 < djay> +1,-1 22:30 < jmckenna> venka: +1 22:30 < markusN> brrz 22:30 * markusN thinking 22:31 < markusN> "by organizations contracting developers" - true in FEM case 22:31 < markusN> I guess I would need the director's approval. ok OT here 22:31 < djay> I'm wondering about the historical aspect of sponsoring... Even for small money, I know lot of old school open source project which keep all the names, at least somewhere. 22:31 < markusN> +1, +1, -0 (too early) 22:32 < jmckenna> it's never worked with MapSever...so I can't add much here :) 22:32 < venka> Surely the old names should be kept some where. 22:32 < jmckenna> but i do like it 22:33 < jmckenna> as long as it is very transparent. so no one things 'why was xxx funded to travel to xxx and not me' 22:33 < markusN> I darkly remember that Tyler had always delayed sponsors 22:33 < jmckenna> sorry general comment 22:33 < venka> I will prepare a wishlist template on trac. Please add items to it. 22:34 < djay> I whish to get time to help to work on this whish list, indeed I get somes :) 22:34 < jmckenna> i might add in something on MS4W :) i like wishlists 22:34 < venka> So the vote is call for sponsor in March 2012, wishlist in March 2012 and decide how old sponsors can be handled later. 22:35 < venka> Jeff: great please add ms4w to the list. 22:36 < venka> I would propose deadline as 15 March (our next PSC meeting) to have the wishlist and a short doc about call for sponsors. 22:37 < djay> yeah !!!!! 22:37 < djay> OM 1 Inter 0 22:37 < venka> All: OK with the March 15 deadline. 22:37 < djay> 92 finish in one minute 8-) 22:37 < djay> yahoo 22:37 < maxi|> Blaaa 22:38 < djay> sorry guys :] 22:38 < jmckenna> ouch. we riot over things like that here in canada :) 22:39 < venka> Shall we move to item 4: ZOO-Project 1.3 release plan 22:39 < djay> yesw e should 22:39 < venka> Gerald: Can you brief. 22:39 < djay> in fact I discovered today that some issue are still there with authentication mechanisms 22:40 < venka> The item approved in the Dec PSC meeting http://www.zoo-project.org/trac/wiki/PSC/meetings/PSCMeet15 22:41 < venka> "Gerald to work on publish ZOO-1.3.0 banch and prepare draft release plan" 22:41 < djay> to be brief I can solve the issue for IE9 adding in the ZOO-Kernel some more specific header for authentication when used throught iframe or things like that 22:41 < venka> Any progress with that, Gerald? 22:41 < djay> yes solved for ie9 22:41 < djay> nevertheless even if it works on android it still does not work on ipod 22:42 < djay> works with safari 22:42 < venka> Gerald: Please prepare draft release plan (as mentioned in Dec 2011 PSC meeting) and send to PSC ML for comment 22:43 < venka> Gerald:? 22:44 < venka> I am reviewing Dec meeting summary now. "Gerald to propose SVN access to Thomas Gratier on PSC ML. Thomas Gratier to be requested to upload French docs on SVN. " 22:44 < venka> any progress with that Gerald? 22:44 -!- tclarke is now known as tclarke|AFK 22:44 < djay> as I told you also for a while now wsdl should be implemented but was not. and I cannot see how to achieve it before releasing. Maybe 1.3 can come out and 1.4 will include soap header and wsdl ... but wsdl is important to me 22:45 < venka> Gerald: Put all that on the draft release plan. Could you send the draft plan to PSC ML by March 10 2012? 22:46 < djay> yes I can 22:47 < venka> Dec PSC summary: "Gerald to propose SVN access to Thomas Gratier on PSC ML. Thomas Gratier to be requested to upload French docs on SVN. " 22:47 < venka> Any progress with that? 22:47 < djay> well, we asked 22:47 < venka> and then? 22:47 < djay> got answer for some help on postgis.fr at a first start, but no progress by now. Sorry 22:48 < venka> Dec summary "Jeff proposed 3 steps: Step1-restructuring SVN, Step2-commit french docs, Step3-modify site structure to support language switching. Jeff to finish step1 as soon as possible and then step2 and step3 to be worked upon. " 22:48 < venka> Jeff: Any progress on that? 22:48 < djay> huge work to achieve 22:49 < jmckenna> zero. it would break all current structure. have not done that yet. if thomas is banging on door to do, we can 22:49 < jmckenna> yes, this is a big things for sponsorship wishlist! huge task 22:50 * djay agree 22:50 < jmckenna> "modify site structure to support lang switch" through sphinx etc. wishlist please :) 22:50 < venka> Gerald: Ask Thomas if he can start banging on the door and we will see how it goes from there. 22:50 < venka> maybe we can add that to the wishlist. 22:50 < venka> item 4: ZOO-Project packaging 22:51 < djay> for ZOO-Project packaging I can say we made some progress 22:51 < jmckenna> i like packaging ha. oh? explain djay 22:51 < djay> in fact some days ago I was contacted by a gentoo developper which asked me to take care of his packages on gentoo linux 22:51 < venka> I propose to focus on Ubuntu, OpenSuse RPM (Angelos) and ms4w? 22:51 < djay> so I checked and discovered that I still get my commit acces 22:51 < jmckenna> nodding my head yes 22:52 < markusN> I would also ask the ELGIS ppl from OSGeo 22:52 < djay> so to be pragmatic I would like to propose to get *for sure* a package for a linux distribution, I get access and can do 22:52 < markusN> M Baudier is very supportive 22:52 < djay> yes I agree that familiar linux distribution are great target 22:52 < jmckenna> ageed 22:53 < venka> Gerald: Please go ahead with your brief about packging. Markus can you send link to ELGIS ppl 22:53 < markusN> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Enterprise_Linux_GIS 22:53 < djay> nevertheless I don't get any access to there repository, so let me repeat myself, I can make sure we get ebuild for gentoo distribution 22:53 < djay> please remember that gentoo is meta)distribution 22:54 < venka> +1 for ELGIS, it is rom (CentOS) based. So teh Opensuse ROM (with some tuning) should work. 22:55 < venka> More details of packaging plan of wishlist? 22:55 < djay> you can think about providing (commercial or not) full suite of packages and for their dependencies as debian / rpm packages. I did that 6 years ago. Look at me I'm speaking like an old man. Please don't consider this too serious :) 22:55 -!- tclarke|AFK is now known as tclarke 22:57 < venka> +1 for full suite of package and dependencies. But we can put more details on a new trac page about Packaging. 22:57 -!- nbozon [~chatzilla@zaqdadc156f.zaq.ne.jp] has joined #zoo-project 22:57 < djay> hello nbozon 22:57 < nbozon> hey friends!! 22:57 < djay> so you are emerging from portage :) (just a joke, we was speaking about packagin) 22:57 < nbozon> hi djay, hi all 22:58 < venka> last item and I leave in 5 minutes. item 6: ZOO-Project simple examples 22:58 < jmckenna> nbozon: good morning! 22:58 < venka> who is going to brief on that? 22:58 < nbozon> dur dur, early morning here 22:58 < jmckenna> ha. i know u are not a morning person :) 22:58 < venka> (nbozon, you are one hour late) 22:58 < djay> yes about ZOO-Project simple example, I would like to say that I was asked some days agos about demonstration of services using gdal transformations 22:59 < nbozon> ohhh my jeff, you were finally right, no sleep !! 22:59 < jmckenna> :) 22:59 < nbozon> sumimasen, 22:59 < venka> + 1 to close meeting 22:59 < nbozon> oh sorry 22:59 < djay> ho, ok 22:59 < djay> so we postpone item 6 ? 22:59 < jmckenna> djay: i saw that request 22:59 < venka> or you can continue and I am leaving. You still have quorum. 23:00 < djay> I think this is one important missing thing 23:01 < maxi|> Go on Shay 23:01 < maxi|> Djay 23:01 < markusN> "ZOO-Project simple examples " 23:01 < markusN> right? 23:02 < djay> right 23:02 < markusN> perhaps Luca can donate something, I can ask him 23:02 < nbozon> :i am sorry all, got problems to got back home 23:02 < jmckenna> sorry to hear that 23:02 < maxi|> NP Nicolas 23:03 < nbozon> jmckenna, sorry, djay and venka, sorry, all, late 23:03 < venka> Markus Please ask Luca to contibute examples. 23:03 < markusN> good luck nick 23:03 < venka> Bye all. 23:03 < markusN> sure 23:03 < djay> bye Venka 23:03 -!- venka [~chatzilla@i60-47-104-120.s11.a027.ap.plala.or.jp] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]] 23:03 < nbozon> bye 23:03 < maxi|> Bye Venkatesh 23:05 < jmckenna> bye all. nbozon have a good day there, hope the news is not that bad 23:05 < djay> bye all 23:05 < markusN> thanks and bye 23:05 < nbozon> no, gr8 !! dif 23:06 < nbozon> difficult 23:06 < nbozon> sorry 23:06 < nbozon> thanks all 23:06 < jmckenna> k bye all friends 23:06 < nbozon> bye Jeff 23:06 < jmckenna> :) 23:06 < maxi|> Bye guys 23:06 < djay> many thanks for coming 23:07 < maxi|> Forza inter : -P 23:07 -!- maxi| [~maxi@host176-231-dynamic.0-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Quit: Bye] 23:07 -!- markusN [~chatzilla@151.62.28.124] has quit [Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.1/20120216115507]] 23:55 -!- tracbot [~tracbot@160.193.16.171] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 23:55 -!- tracbot [~tracbot@160.193.16.171] has joined #zoo-project --- Day changed jeu. févr. 23 2012 00:02 < kalxas> hi all 00:02 < kalxas> I missed the meeting...